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how's it going higher side chatters

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drink a little drink smoking a little

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smoke from sunny San Diego i'm greg carl

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wooden as we analyze the lies in the

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power pyramid awakening to the fact that

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when they're pushing one perspective

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usually we find the opposite to be true

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and one area where this is becoming

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increasingly clear is that ancient

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wisdom was not just different but

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enlightening and superior in putting man

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more in tune with nature more

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artistically and architectural ii

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advanced and also what is most likely

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the biggest reason for the campaign to

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destroy it ancient man's mindset greatly

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valued personal knowledge and saw no

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need for a privileged authority of

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course the shadowy elite couldn't have

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that but now centuries later we're

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putting back the pieces in the big

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picture gets clearer every day and one

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of the puzzle masters out there putting

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Humpty Dumpty back together again in a

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big way as today's guest Richard Kassar

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oh he's a journalist lecturer Freemason

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American expat and the author of written

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in stone decoding the secret Masonic

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religion hidden and Gothic cathedrals in

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world architecture it's my pleasure to

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introduce a man who's digging up the

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plan Richard welcome to THC all right

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thanks for having me I really appreciate

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it I love that puzzle master it's cool

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yeah I try to be creative with that but

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thanks for being here it is a real treat

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I mean again this show it was a

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listeners requests that made me aware of

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your work and I'm glad that I have been

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because it seems like you're picking up

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architecture in the ancient world that

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isn't on other people's radar and when

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you stack up case after case like you do

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it really seems like we're talking about

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global knowledge to a degree that's

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pretty staggering wouldn't you say

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definitely yeah and it's something that

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it's always been with me it's all it's

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stuff that was always inside of me and

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coming outside of me now and that's what

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that's what I'm bringing to the table

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and that's why it's it's fun for me

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because

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it's Who I am it's not like I see

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something and I want to try to be that

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thing it's company it's stuff that's

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coming out that was always inside of me

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always looking at churches wondering why

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they had those big three entrances ever

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since I can remember I think I was six

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years old one of my earliest memories in

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life and looking at that and thinking

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what does that mean and then being

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struck by it and then here you know so

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many decades later figuring it all out

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and putting it all together it's I love

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it yeah I mean when you can fight the

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temptation to get distracted by the

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hustle and bustle of life the debt

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that's accumulating in your name you

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know paying bills registering this that

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and the other and all these things you

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know when you can actually extract

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yourself from that and look at the

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pressing questions that are occurring to

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you naturally and actually pursue that

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path I mean that's a beautiful thing

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totally yep that's totally right I

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totally agree it's it's a it's once you

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once you can divorce yourself from

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having that nine-to-five job and once

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you can not have to worry anymore about

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when your next paycheck is coming it all

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comes out out of you at all I know

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people have that during the day you know

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maybe for an hour or two and that's

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excellent when it's happening all day

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long all week long all month long and

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all year long it's just like

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unbelievable Awakening and and you know

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you feel overwhelmed by it and it's so

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empowering as well mm-hmm

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that man so tell us a little bit about

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this architecture and some of the

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aspects of it I guess we should start

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with the the triptych this seems to be

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one of the premier things you're

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pointing out and it seems to be

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everywhere tell us about this and why

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it's significant okay the triptych is

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something that I've always been

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interested in ever since I was small the

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first time I've ever seen the triptychs

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if you look at Gothic cathedrals and

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churches the entrance the West facade

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the entrances to these buildings all

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have the triptych it's a triple doorway

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the doorway in the middle is slightly

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larger usually than the outer two doors

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flanking it and I've always been drawn

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to it I was wondering what it was as I

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got older I learned about the Holy

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Trinity you know slightly older and my

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seven eight-year-old

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religious studies classes they taught us

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about the Father Son and Holy Spirit and

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I assumed that that's what the triptych

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stood for but as I got a little bit

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older in my you know 13 14 year old time

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and the Loch Ness monster all that type

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of stuff and you know really getting

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into the mysteries of it and slightly

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started to become friends with spiritual

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gurus and mystics and stuff and little

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by little I started to understand that

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the idea of Atlantis which is this whole

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concept of a lost Golden Age in remote

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prehistory where men was much more

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evolved where civilization was much

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higher than it was today and then this

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whole concept of the the gradual decline

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of civilization it's a complete opposite

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idea than what we're taught in school

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you know we're taught that from cavemen

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we became space travelers from idiots we

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became intelligent highly sophisticated

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highly technological and much better off

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than we were and what you have in this

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occult tradition in this mystical

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tradition in this inner tradition is the

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complete opposite the idea that a long

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time ago it was a golden age and little

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by little the golden age sank and

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declined into the into the lower ages

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you know we have different if you look

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at history you even see this in like the

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Greeks and the Romans and in Hinduism

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for example the Greek poet has eyed he

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talked about the Golden Age declining

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into the Silver Age then the Bronze Age

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then the Iron Age you know as time crept

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on you had the Roman poet Ovid he also

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talked about the Golden Age declining

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into the silver than the bronze and the

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iron age in Hinduism that concept of the

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ages is there as well satya thoughts etc

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etc you've heard I'm sure you've heard

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of the Kali Yuga Age which everybody

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says that we're in right now and so you

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you know there's the you know other

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connections to the whole by the mind and

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other other cultures across the world

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have this tradition so it's really

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interesting because there's a historical

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reason to believe it not just in these

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ancient cultures and not just

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deniz in these philosophers but also in

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this entire inner tradition of the

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occult and and mysticism and that you

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know that scholars are completely have

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completely turned their back on so I

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started getting into that at a very

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early age and I really had really

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resonated with me it was really

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something that I felt drawn to and so

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madam probably how old was I late teens

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to Italy in different places in Europe

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and I had started to realize that a lot

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of these three door entrances were kind

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of everywhere you know not just in in

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churches but you find them also in

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mosques in synagogues you find them in

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in in Chinese architecture you find them

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in Hinduism in India in Indian

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architecture and so I started to realize

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you know it really doesn't stand for the

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Holy Trinity because that's just one

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concept in one religious tradition and

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so besides I come ready to realize that

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the Holy Trinity is and I know a lot of

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people aren't gonna like this but it

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doesn't make any damn sense father son

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Holy Spirit never made any sense to me

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I've studied it I've read the Bible so

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many times and I'm a true philosopher I

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mean I even study philosophy in college

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and I've read all the traditions and I

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had never made any sense the only way it

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made sense is if the Holy excuse me

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Father Son Holy Spirit if the Holy

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Spirit is a feminine and yes so you have

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the Father which is the soul Son and

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Holy Spirit the male and the female the

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two opposites some people actually say

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that the the reason they use the Holy

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Spirit is it's a symbol for the removal

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of the feminine and I think that's kind

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of an interesting perspective because

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symbolically it's like a puff of smoke

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where the feminine used to be in the

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Trinity there I don't know I think

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that's kind of compelling that's it I

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totally agree that's exactly what it is

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you have the middle door the triptych

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which is the father which is the eternal

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soul manifesting into the material world

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and when the soul manifests into the

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material world the world is made up of

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duality and so that's the two opposite

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doors of the triptych though this is in

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every single ancient civilization in my

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book written in stone I show it

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I show how in each culture the same

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concept of duality prevailed the concept

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of duality you'll find that people call

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it polarity and and opposites you find

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that in Bar None every single ancient

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civilization on the planet they all

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believed in the saint this is this is

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something that struck me as I as I was

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in college and then shortly after

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college every single ancient culture had

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the exact same wisdom it and it's

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impossible that archaeologists are not

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seeing what I'm seeing not only did they

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have the same pyramidal structures a lot

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of a mummified their dead same Korbel

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fault architecture and I show this on my

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website on my Facebook page and things

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like that in my book photos I mean

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endless photos about these similarities

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but they also have the same

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philosophical ideas and the concept of

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duality

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held was that physical existence the

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material world is made up of yin and

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yang you have it in China in China the

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ancient China they call it Union yang

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the two concepts of Sun and Moon okay

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during the day and night basically

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during the day it's light out and it's

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hot because the sun is shining but at

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night it's cold and dark so you have

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this whole concept of opposites being

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symbolized by the Sun on one hand and by

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the moon on the other hand and that's

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the key you have that in every

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civilization they all talk about the

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duality and they all use the same

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symbolism of the Sun and the moon the

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the light and the dark the hot and the

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cold to symbolize it to express it and

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that everything in the universe is dual

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that the right side of the body is the

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male solar warm side and the female side

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the left side is the lunar the inside

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you have this this connects to Kundalini

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Yoga which I know you're familiar with

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pit in and gala

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excuse me Aida and Pingala and you have

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this in in every civilization there's

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just different words for it there's

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different names for it but usually it's

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always symbolized by the Sun on one side

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on the right side symbolizing the

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yang aspect and the moon on the left

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side sinks the female side symbolizing

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the in aspect and so that's you have to

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remember that one thing though that's

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physical world stuff and the soul is a

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spiritual being manifesting in into the

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spiritual world I mean the material

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world scuse me so that's the middle door

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of the triptych that's the eternal

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that's the eternal Center you know when

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people say Center yourself

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find your soul within be centered

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balance balance between one you know if

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the concept of balance is between

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opposites so that's the number three you

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have three the concept of the balance is

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the third door the middle door the

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balance point between the two outer

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doors between the two opposing doorways

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this is in Egypt it's the ancient Mayans

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had it in Peru

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you have the Incan and all the pre-inca

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cultures believed in it and so this is

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what the worldwide religion the ancient

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worldwide religion of the pyramid

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builders and the triptych temple makers

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I guess you could call them best but

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that was their religion and I did some

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further research and realized that this

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is the inner tradition of Freemasonry I

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mean the whole concept of the triptych

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is is lives on in Freemasonry and people

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talk about Freemasonry Freemasons they

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came to take over the world

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well Freemasonry in the past couple of

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hundred years has changed it's been

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changed on purpose

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it went through stunning transformations

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and but if you look toward the earlier

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Freemasons they built the Gothic

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cathedrals and the Gothic cathedrals

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well have triptych door entrances

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triptych three door entrances and all

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the facade all the architecture on the

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Gothic cathedrals explains what the

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triptych is the duality the

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reconciliation of opposites the balance

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of the offices finding your soul within

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who you are the eternal you the higher

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self that's that's what the Gothic

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cathedrals are all talking about that's

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what true Freemasonry is about they knew

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the the the universal religion of all

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ancient civilizations yeah man Wow

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there's compelling connections and it

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seems to make a lot of sense I wanted to

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talk a little bit about that Sun and

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Moon wisdom that you had mentioned

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because I

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find this part fascinating let me read

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from your blog you have a post about

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this and I just think this is a great

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introductory paragraph for this but you

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say a powerful ancient message is being

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communicated to us and hidden from us by

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the elite the message comes from the Sun

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and Moon in our sky the message or code

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was crafted billions of years ago by

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someone or something far more powerful

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and more intelligent than ourselves

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today's scholars and scientists have

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failed to recognize let alone crack the

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code of the Sun and Moon but ancient

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priests and priestesses knew it well

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sadly 2,000 years ago

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organized religions like Christianity

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outlaw the Sun and moons wisdom luckily

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secret societies like the Freemasons

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quickly arose to safeguarded that is a

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very awesome paragraph in an intriguing

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perspective on ancient wisdom and the

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sacred knowledge of mystery schools I

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mean what brings you to the conclusion I

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guess that it is a form of communication

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because the idea you know if you if you

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look at the coincidences of the Sun and

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the moon they're all very startling not

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just a symbolism which I which I talked

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about but let's let's go over it real

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slowly you know the Sun is symbolic of

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the day time okay and the moon is

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symbolic of the night time now we have

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12 hours in the day in 12 hours at night

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that's exactly half an H you know so you

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have a real strong coincidence there so

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during the day as I said the day brings

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light the night brings dark those are

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opposites the light brings hot the dark

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brings cold again hot and colder

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opposites yeah the hot brings dry but

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the cold brings moist those are

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opposites the day symbolizes life the

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night symbolizes death life and death

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are opposites we think of life is good

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and we think of death is evil those are

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opposites as well so not that's an

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that'sall symbolism that's pretty strong

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stuff right there if you really think

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about that you know half of our lives

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are daytime and the other half are night

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and half of our lives are ruled by one

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set of opposites and the other by the

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other side of a set of opposites that's

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just one aspect of it then there's more

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if you look at the

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and astronomers have always been

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perplexed by what they call this

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unbelievable coincidence if you look at

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the Sun and the full moon from Earth

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they appear the exact same size in our

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sky that's another major step forward to

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say wow this this is more than just

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coincidence because how could that you

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know we are our planet is situated in

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such a way that from our perspective

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when we look at the Sun and when we look

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at the full moon in the sky they're the

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exact same size so not only do we have

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the Sun on one side ruling the day and

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the heat and all the yang stuff and the

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moon on the other side ruling the night

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and the dark and all the in stuff but

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the two planetary objects that the two

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astronomical bodies are the exact same

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size when viewed from Earth that's not

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just a coincidence there's something

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really strange about that if you if you

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think about it if you hear it it might

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not be but if you really sit one night

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and look at the Stars and think about

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those opposites that I just told you

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about and then think about that Sun and

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Moon coincidence there's something up

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with that and that's one of the things

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that that really struck me as being

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unbelievable from from a very you know

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early age I've been considering all this

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not just me all the ancient

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civilizations if you look at the

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Egyptians for example you know the Sun

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and the moon it's very powerful stuff in

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ancient Egypt in ancient Egyptian

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religion you have the left again the

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whole left side of the body is the lunar

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side the whole right side is the solar

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side so they knew about this they this

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was something that this that their whole

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entire religion focused on and this is

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something that's even known to

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Egyptologists you could read this in

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modern books on Egyptology so that's a

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few of the things that you know shows

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you that that there's something really

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going on here and also in Freemasonry

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the concept of the Sun of the Moon a

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very powerful stuff strong tradition all

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the symbolism for example if you look at

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the Masonic tracing boards there's the

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two pillars of jaqen and Boaz one

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of them is capped by the Sun Jake and

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the other one is capped by the moon boas

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and that's major stuff in Freemasonry

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that Jake and the Boaz pillars they

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symbolize the concept of duality and all

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of the cathedrals the Gothic cathedrals

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of Europe have those those massive twin

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pillars if anybody's in front of their

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computers is Google Gothic cathedrals

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and you'll see this two massive twin

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pillars and one of them is the solar

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pillar and one of them is the moola the

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the lunar pillar

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jaqen and the right and and Boaz on the

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left as a matter of fact charts

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Cathedral in France has an iron plate of

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the Sun above one pillar and an iron

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plate of the moon above the other pillar

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and that's because the Freemasons the

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people men who were who were

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safeguarding the ancient tradition the

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ancient universal religion encoded it

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into the cathedrals into the

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architecture every single part of the

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architecture is explaining this lost

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ancient Jewish Inchon tradition and so

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that's that's who the Freemasons really

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were that's why when I hear people

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talking about the Freemasons today it's

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ok I understand yeah you know everything

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is corrupted you know every every single

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schools are corrupted universities are

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corrupted the law is corrupted the

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government's corrupted obviously

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freemason he's been corrupted as well

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but don't get confused and think that

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the Freemasons were founded because they

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were trying to start some new world

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order that's garbage that's total

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garbage don't you know that that'd be a

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big mistake for you to make for anybody

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to make because the Freemasons built

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those cathedrals and I've deciphered the

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architecture in those cathedrals and

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they were very spiritual people

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higher-self they believed in the higher

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self everything that they did was to

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encode a message in stone for us for us

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because they knew there would be a

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darker time they knew that the only way

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to keep this wisdom alive wasn't to

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write it down on paper you know they

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encoded it in structures that to this

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day are still around those Gothic

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cathedrals are a thousand years old

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these people deserve respect man not not

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not for us to say all the Freemasons

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there they're in charge of the banks

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people are in charge of the banks I know

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who not the freemasons there's other

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people in charge of the banks and the

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IMF and all this other stuff the

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pharmaceuticals Big Oil sure I see the

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conspiracy to you know III went out and

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lived on my own too and realized how

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there's no way to make it unless you you

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know are gonna work the rest of your

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life like a slave but you know don't

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don't get confused and think that the

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Free Masons are behind it maybe in the

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past hundred years the whole thing

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two hundred years there's been a

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corruption and you know you could point

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to some Freemasons and say that the

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institution has been corrupted okay

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that's fine I I don't have any arguments

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there but to say that it was founded

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originally to be some type of instrument

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for the New World Order I think you're

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making a big mistake I think you're not

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paying attention to all this esoteric

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architecture not just in the Gothic

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cathedrals but in the castles and in the

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churches and other buildings that exist

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throughout the world I'm talking too

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much

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great no worries man I I kind of agree

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with you there I mean I've definitely

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had guests who are Freemasons who I

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think are super enlightening and

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intelligent and obviously they're after

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the real knowledge I and they're it's

544
00:21:15,090 --> 00:21:12,760
obviously split in the conspiracy

545
00:21:17,690 --> 00:21:15,100
community when talking about the Masons

546
00:21:19,830 --> 00:21:17,700
and it is kind of a popular thought in

547
00:21:21,750 --> 00:21:19,840
especially people who look at ancient

548
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:21,760
civilizations in ancient architecture

549
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:23,410
and look at this knowledge that we used

550
00:21:27,990 --> 00:21:26,410
to have it's pretty popular to come to

551
00:21:29,580 --> 00:21:28,000
the conclusion that the Vatican Empire

552
00:21:31,860 --> 00:21:29,590
started trying to destroy this knowledge

553
00:21:34,050 --> 00:21:31,870
the keepers of it form secret societies

554
00:21:36,420 --> 00:21:34,060
to preserve it and I can definitely see

555
00:21:39,150 --> 00:21:36,430
that thread but when I look at who the

556
00:21:41,070 --> 00:21:39,160
Masons have always been at least it's to

557
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:41,080
my knowledge which is fairly ignorant I

558
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:43,210
mean whether you're talking about titans

559
00:21:47,610 --> 00:21:44,770
of industry or the forefathers of

560
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:47,620
America it almost is exclusively rich

561
00:21:52,260 --> 00:21:50,050
white men and sometimes I'm curious if

562
00:21:55,410 --> 00:21:52,270
the same people who work to destroy it

563
00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:55,420
in a mainstream way didn't just create

564
00:21:59,520 --> 00:21:57,730
the secret societies to preserve it for

565
00:22:01,800 --> 00:21:59,530
themselves yes to preserve it but not

566
00:22:03,630 --> 00:22:01,810
necessarily for Humanity I'm not sure

567
00:22:06,570 --> 00:22:03,640
but you also mentioned the removal of

568
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:06,580
the feminine and Freemasonry definitely

569
00:22:13,100 --> 00:22:10,450
doesn't treat women all that well well

570
00:22:16,150 --> 00:22:13,110
this is fair it's definitely fair to say

571
00:22:17,620 --> 00:22:16,160
again what what I'm looking at are the

572
00:22:19,900 --> 00:22:17,630
Udrih builders right from that

573
00:22:22,990 --> 00:22:19,910
perspective yeah yeah as I said before

574
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:23,000
you know remember to the Golden Age you

575
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:25,730
know thousands of years BC it's all

576
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:27,890
getting worse and worse and worse even

577
00:22:32,170 --> 00:22:29,570
in my own short lifetime you know in the

578
00:22:35,050 --> 00:22:32,180
past thirty years forty years I've seen

579
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:35,060
such a decline so imagine over the or

580
00:22:39,070 --> 00:22:37,250
how much it's really declining over

581
00:22:41,470 --> 00:22:39,080
hundreds of years you know over a period

582
00:22:44,140 --> 00:22:41,480
of hundreds of years so that's that's

583
00:22:46,030 --> 00:22:44,150
something that you know to keep in mind

584
00:22:49,390 --> 00:22:46,040
as well I'm looking at the Cathedral

585
00:22:51,490 --> 00:22:49,400
builders I'm looking at most of the of

586
00:22:54,220 --> 00:22:51,500
the castles that they're also retain a

587
00:22:56,500 --> 00:22:54,230
lot of the esoteric wisdom and so that's

588
00:22:59,260 --> 00:22:56,510
that's from my point of view what the

589
00:23:03,460 --> 00:22:59,270
true Freemasons were you know when we

590
00:23:05,830 --> 00:23:03,470
get down to the 1700s 1600s fifteen even

591
00:23:08,140 --> 00:23:05,840
the 1800s that's where I think the major

592
00:23:10,210 --> 00:23:08,150
changes started to occur in the 1800s

593
00:23:13,230 --> 00:23:10,220
yeah and in fact in one of my upcoming

594
00:23:16,630 --> 00:23:13,240
films I've actually pinpointed it to a

595
00:23:18,790 --> 00:23:16,640
certain a certain episode the Morgan

596
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:18,800
Affair I definitely with that I heard

597
00:23:22,030 --> 00:23:20,690
you talk about it on a previous

598
00:23:23,590 --> 00:23:22,040
interview and that was gonna be one of

599
00:23:24,820 --> 00:23:23,600
my questions for you and tell us a

600
00:23:26,950 --> 00:23:24,830
little bit about this because this does

601
00:23:29,830 --> 00:23:26,960
back up the idea that there was a

602
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:29,840
shake-up in Freemasonry and this seems

603
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:32,210
to be a catalyst for it yeah it was

604
00:23:36,490 --> 00:23:34,490
basically what I what I look at when I

605
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:36,500
look at the Morgan affair it looks to me

606
00:23:43,660 --> 00:23:41,330
like it was a red flag like a false flag

607
00:23:46,150 --> 00:23:43,670
event kind of thing false flag you know

608
00:23:48,820 --> 00:23:46,160
18 where we're in the 1830s here more or

609
00:23:51,310 --> 00:23:48,830
less it's kind of it's tough for me to

610
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:51,320
recall all the details because that's

611
00:23:54,580 --> 00:23:52,970
not the way my mind works I try not to

612
00:23:56,050 --> 00:23:54,590
remember too much stuff because I don't

613
00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:56,060
want to keep too much stuff in my mind

614
00:24:00,160 --> 00:23:58,010
at one time I did write down some notes

615
00:24:02,020 --> 00:24:00,170
I guess it was in the 1830s sometimes

616
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:02,030
someone was gonna reveal the secrets I

617
00:24:06,580 --> 00:24:04,850
guess this guy Morgan William Morgan was

618
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:06,590
gonna reveal this is this is according

619
00:24:10,140 --> 00:24:08,570
to historians William Morgan was going

620
00:24:14,380 --> 00:24:10,150
to reveal the secrets of Freemasonry

621
00:24:16,870 --> 00:24:14,390
okay so then you have supposedly the

622
00:24:20,290 --> 00:24:16,880
Masons warned him not to do it he didn't

623
00:24:22,150 --> 00:24:20,300
listen he disappeared and they blame the

624
00:24:24,940 --> 00:24:22,160
Masons they set out well the Masons must

625
00:24:27,850 --> 00:24:24,950
have must have killed him and so they

626
00:24:30,700 --> 00:24:27,860
were brought to trial they were

627
00:24:33,220 --> 00:24:30,710
exonerated of this supposed crime

628
00:24:36,100 --> 00:24:33,230
because the body was never found and

629
00:24:38,710 --> 00:24:36,110
then according to historians everybody

630
00:24:41,380 --> 00:24:38,720
got upset because it appeared that the

631
00:24:43,090 --> 00:24:41,390
judge was a freemason and all the people

632
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:43,100
at the trial were Freemasons and they

633
00:24:47,650 --> 00:24:45,170
let each other go and so there was this

634
00:24:50,049 --> 00:24:47,660
huge backlash against Freemasonry and

635
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:50,059
everybody got upset about at Freemasons

636
00:24:56,039 --> 00:24:52,970
and lodges were boarded up people

637
00:24:58,480 --> 00:24:56,049
stopped attending meetings people

638
00:25:00,159 --> 00:24:58,490
disavowed Freemasonry they didn't want

639
00:25:02,770 --> 00:25:00,169
to be Freemasons anymore and supposedly

640
00:25:05,020 --> 00:25:02,780
across the country you had this whole

641
00:25:07,990 --> 00:25:05,030
shutdown of the system there was there

642
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:08,000
was no longer any Freemasonry or it it

643
00:25:12,370 --> 00:25:10,850
died down from what it was prior and

644
00:25:14,740 --> 00:25:12,380
then for about this happened for about

645
00:25:16,659 --> 00:25:14,750
twenty years or thirty years and it went

646
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:16,669
through a kind of change and this is

647
00:25:20,850 --> 00:25:18,410
interesting because it did it did go

648
00:25:23,980 --> 00:25:20,860
through a kind of change in there was

649
00:25:26,980 --> 00:25:23,990
there was a drop off in the membership

650
00:25:29,380 --> 00:25:26,990
of Freemasonry and then when it really

651
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:29,390
it was in the 50s or the 60s 1850s 1860s

652
00:25:33,549 --> 00:25:31,850
it was a completely different order and

653
00:25:36,430 --> 00:25:33,559
that's something that's visible because

654
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:36,440
all of a sudden from from what appeared

655
00:25:41,230 --> 00:25:38,450
to be a more mystical and loosely

656
00:25:45,750 --> 00:25:41,240
organized origin it turned into a much

657
00:25:47,950 --> 00:25:45,760
more highly controlled and a much more

658
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:47,960
sort of American apple pie

659
00:25:52,750 --> 00:25:50,450
fourth-of-july type of thing what you

660
00:25:54,789 --> 00:25:52,760
see today you know which people join

661
00:25:57,580 --> 00:25:54,799
masonry and they talk about the picnics

662
00:26:00,220 --> 00:25:57,590
and and the fireworks on and the fishing

663
00:26:02,049 --> 00:26:00,230
trips and that's that that's not what

664
00:26:05,130 --> 00:26:02,059
true Freemasonry is you know true

665
00:26:09,220 --> 00:26:05,140
Freemasonry is a is a mystical

666
00:26:10,630 --> 00:26:09,230
organization where people who who are

667
00:26:13,210 --> 00:26:10,640
looking for something deeper than what

668
00:26:14,890 --> 00:26:13,220
religion can can give you that's where

669
00:26:16,570 --> 00:26:14,900
you go and that's where you used to go

670
00:26:18,130 --> 00:26:16,580
not you know you try to go there today

671
00:26:20,230 --> 00:26:18,140
but you know you get the fishing trip

672
00:26:22,990 --> 00:26:20,240
stuff and that's where the difference is

673
00:26:24,820 --> 00:26:23,000
and I I pin point the change to to the

674
00:26:26,430 --> 00:26:24,830
Morgan affair that's as far as my

675
00:26:28,930 --> 00:26:26,440
research goes I'm still looking into it

676
00:26:31,390 --> 00:26:28,940
I'm asking a lot of questions about it

677
00:26:33,909 --> 00:26:31,400
I'm not a hundred percent saying that

678
00:26:35,230 --> 00:26:33,919
this is the way it happened but this is

679
00:26:38,020 --> 00:26:35,240
interesting to me that's all

680
00:26:39,340 --> 00:26:38,030
my real forte is symbolism my real forte

681
00:26:41,350 --> 00:26:39,350
is looking at the ancient cultures

682
00:26:41,620 --> 00:26:41,360
figuring out showing the similarities

683
00:26:43,750 --> 00:26:41,630
but

684
00:26:45,820 --> 00:26:43,760
and cultures showing how they all had

685
00:26:48,730 --> 00:26:45,830
the same belief systems pointing to

686
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:48,740
symbols that that show the belief

687
00:26:52,690 --> 00:26:50,810
systems and then finding the tradition

688
00:26:54,490 --> 00:26:52,700
this same concept of the universal

689
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:54,500
religion in true authentic Freemasonry

690
00:26:59,860 --> 00:26:57,290
mm-hmm yeah I think that's super

691
00:27:01,870 --> 00:26:59,870
interesting and also I mean there are

692
00:27:03,850 --> 00:27:01,880
other researchers who talk about that

693
00:27:06,220 --> 00:27:03,860
shake up and I have never heard about

694
00:27:07,750 --> 00:27:06,230
the Morgan affair that definitely could

695
00:27:09,550 --> 00:27:07,760
be it Frederick's

696
00:27:11,110 --> 00:27:09,560
a friend of mine and previous guests

697
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:11,120
we've had he's done a lot of research on

698
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:13,010
the Scottish Rite branch in particular

699
00:27:17,110 --> 00:27:14,690
as he seems to think that they're

700
00:27:19,300 --> 00:27:17,120
responsible for a lot of the emptiness

701
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:19,310
of masonry because they're one of the

702
00:27:23,470 --> 00:27:20,930
newest chapters and they've grown to

703
00:27:26,110 --> 00:27:23,480
become the biggest so that's kind of an

704
00:27:27,700 --> 00:27:26,120
indication that they have helped and

705
00:27:29,860 --> 00:27:27,710
breaking down the barriers are becoming

706
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:29,870
a huge organization and it seems to be

707
00:27:34,540 --> 00:27:31,970
devoid of a lot of the original

708
00:27:36,460 --> 00:27:34,550
information so I mean it's definitely

709
00:27:37,750 --> 00:27:36,470
compelling you also I've heard you talk

710
00:27:40,780 --> 00:27:37,760
about in the past there was a guy who

711
00:27:44,050 --> 00:27:40,790
wrote a letter to George Washington and

712
00:27:46,180 --> 00:27:44,060
said something about a cabal ransacking

713
00:27:48,940 --> 00:27:46,190
Freemasonry in Europe or something of

714
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:48,950
that effect right yeah I would have to

715
00:27:53,530 --> 00:27:50,690
check my notes though for names and

716
00:27:56,260 --> 00:27:53,540
dates and things like that but yeah I

717
00:27:57,790 --> 00:27:56,270
think it was Snyder I forget and I don't

718
00:28:00,880 --> 00:27:57,800
have access to anything right now but

719
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:00,890
yet it the whole in a nutshell the

720
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:03,170
Illuminati and we've all heard that name

721
00:28:10,900 --> 00:28:07,730
before there's information and and it's

722
00:28:14,830 --> 00:28:10,910
good solid information that the

723
00:28:18,910 --> 00:28:14,840
Illuminati arose and infiltrated the

724
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:18,920
Masonic lodges little by little a small

725
00:28:23,230 --> 00:28:20,930
faction and they infiltrated they took

726
00:28:27,310 --> 00:28:23,240
some of the wisdom and what they did was

727
00:28:28,810 --> 00:28:27,320
they slowly took over the lodges and

728
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:28,820
this didn't happen in five or ten years

729
00:28:34,270 --> 00:28:32,090
this happened slowly over time and that

730
00:28:36,820 --> 00:28:34,280
same group of Illuminati then crossed

731
00:28:40,390 --> 00:28:36,830
the Atlantic and came to America and

732
00:28:43,900 --> 00:28:40,400
just as George Washington was dying of

733
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:43,910
old age he wrote a letter and he said in

734
00:28:49,540 --> 00:28:45,770
the letter I think it was to a man named

735
00:28:50,020 --> 00:28:49,550
Schneider as some unknown person of

736
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:50,030
history

737
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:52,010
he said something of to the effect of

738
00:28:54,780 --> 00:28:53,450
I've heard of the doctrines of the

739
00:28:57,030 --> 00:28:54,790
Illuminati

740
00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:57,040
you know I've heard of the evil of the

741
00:28:59,880 --> 00:28:58,330
Illuminati and what they're doing in

742
00:29:01,980 --> 00:28:59,890
Europe and I haven't seen any of that

743
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:01,990
here in the Masonic lodges here not yet

744
00:29:04,410 --> 00:29:02,770
anyway

745
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:04,420
and I think he died about six months

746
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:08,170
later so that letter to me was a little

747
00:29:11,610 --> 00:29:10,090
bit of information that said George

748
00:29:13,620 --> 00:29:11,620
Washington wrote a letter saying he'd

749
00:29:15,420 --> 00:29:13,630
heard that the Illuminati was ransacking

750
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:15,430
through the Masonic lodges in Europe and

751
00:29:20,310 --> 00:29:17,890
he had not seen that coming to America

752
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:20,320
yet and this was in the late 1800s

753
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:23,290
then of course re the late 1700s then of

754
00:29:27,810 --> 00:29:25,090
course 40 years later you had the Morgan

755
00:29:30,630 --> 00:29:27,820
affair where all of American masonry

756
00:29:33,660 --> 00:29:30,640
seems to have changed so that's yes so

757
00:29:35,310 --> 00:29:33,670
that's that's where I Stetson another

758
00:29:37,380 --> 00:29:35,320
piece of the puzzle that I see that I'm

759
00:29:41,310 --> 00:29:37,390
putting together from my own curiosity

760
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:41,320
yeah you know that shows me that this

761
00:29:46,580 --> 00:29:43,810
alumina it's the Illuminati that started

762
00:29:50,580 --> 00:29:46,590
in Europe that came to America is

763
00:29:53,070 --> 00:29:50,590
responsible for the the taking away the

764
00:29:55,350 --> 00:29:53,080
wisdom of Freemasonry and you know

765
00:29:57,990 --> 00:29:55,360
making it kind of a ruin which is what I

766
00:30:00,690 --> 00:29:58,000
see of it today I don't study a lot of

767
00:30:02,670 --> 00:30:00,700
Freemasonry today because I am just not

768
00:30:05,010 --> 00:30:02,680
interested to me it's a jumbled mess and

769
00:30:10,050 --> 00:30:05,020
I don't you know I'm more interested in

770
00:30:11,700 --> 00:30:10,060
the symbols of the the Masonic tracing

771
00:30:14,010 --> 00:30:11,710
boards which come for some of them come

772
00:30:16,650 --> 00:30:14,020
from the 1700s and the early 1800s

773
00:30:18,210 --> 00:30:16,660
because those are more authentic you

774
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:18,220
know the aprons

775
00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:20,010
you know the old-fashioned aprons

776
00:30:24,210 --> 00:30:22,510
symbolism on chairs symbol is on swords

777
00:30:26,010 --> 00:30:24,220
because that stuff is authentic because

778
00:30:27,690 --> 00:30:26,020
you know you could change the doctrines

779
00:30:29,130 --> 00:30:27,700
you can change what people are talking

780
00:30:30,990 --> 00:30:29,140
about that's what they did they they

781
00:30:33,390 --> 00:30:31,000
jumbled up the ceremony and they changed

782
00:30:35,460 --> 00:30:33,400
it all around it's you can still see

783
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:35,470
pieces of wisdom underneath it the

784
00:30:39,810 --> 00:30:37,810
duality like I said the duality and the

785
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:39,820
transcendence of duality to find the

786
00:30:44,130 --> 00:30:41,650
higher self this is the concept of the

787
00:30:45,930 --> 00:30:44,140
number three that Freemasonry is famous

788
00:30:47,730 --> 00:30:45,940
for you know the Freemasons all talk

789
00:30:50,190 --> 00:30:47,740
about the number three historically and

790
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:50,200
all the buildings of Washington DC and

791
00:30:53,940 --> 00:30:51,970
all the buildings in the world have

792
00:30:56,220 --> 00:30:53,950
three symbolism the whole concept of

793
00:30:58,560 --> 00:30:56,230
three again is the balance of duality to

794
00:31:01,350 --> 00:30:58,570
find the center to find the inner self

795
00:31:04,140 --> 00:31:01,360
the higher self recognizing that you're

796
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:04,150
not your body recognizing that you're

797
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:06,250
something much higher than that you're

798
00:31:11,430 --> 00:31:08,050
an eternal soul in

799
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:11,440
as you know your body and the soul is a

800
00:31:15,450 --> 00:31:13,690
God by the way and that's another piece

801
00:31:17,310 --> 00:31:15,460
of the puzzle that I see a lot of a lot

802
00:31:21,060 --> 00:31:17,320
of researchers and authors making a big

803
00:31:24,270 --> 00:31:21,070
mistake about and you know according the

804
00:31:25,770 --> 00:31:24,280
higher power a monotheistic deity or you

805
00:31:28,620 --> 00:31:25,780
know that guy over there he's got all

806
00:31:29,100 --> 00:31:28,630
the power he's absolute he's no no it's

807
00:31:41,370 --> 00:31:29,110
you

808
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:41,380
person to follow there's no don't ask

809
00:31:45,450 --> 00:31:43,090
for help from somebody else it's all you

810
00:31:48,090 --> 00:31:45,460
believe in yourself you know your higher

811
00:31:50,070 --> 00:31:48,100
self but you are the power you have the

812
00:31:52,140 --> 00:31:50,080
power and we've been divorced from that

813
00:31:54,330 --> 00:31:52,150
because you know the powers that be

814
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:54,340
don't want us to know that you know

815
00:31:57,510 --> 00:31:56,050
we're being this information is being

816
00:31:59,970 --> 00:31:57,520
hidden from us because it's a lot easier

817
00:32:01,650 --> 00:31:59,980
to make people slaves that way to make

818
00:32:03,900 --> 00:32:01,660
them believe that they have to follow a

819
00:32:06,150 --> 00:32:03,910
doctrine rather than look inside

820
00:32:09,210 --> 00:32:06,160
themselves for the truth mm-hmm well

821
00:32:10,830 --> 00:32:09,220
said man and that was something else I

822
00:32:12,330 --> 00:32:10,840
was gonna ask you about an area of

823
00:32:14,820 --> 00:32:12,340
research of yours that I found pretty

824
00:32:17,580 --> 00:32:14,830
compelling was the god self icon you've

825
00:32:21,630 --> 00:32:17,590
kind of explained what it might mean but

826
00:32:23,430 --> 00:32:21,640
where do we see this encoded god self

827
00:32:24,930 --> 00:32:23,440
icon you know I'm actually writing a

828
00:32:26,190 --> 00:32:24,940
book about it right now and I'm hoping

829
00:32:28,770 --> 00:32:26,200
it's gonna be ready in a couple of

830
00:32:30,740 --> 00:32:28,780
months the god self icon is is is just

831
00:32:34,770 --> 00:32:30,750
something that's been blowing me away

832
00:32:37,590 --> 00:32:34,780
for several years now every single

833
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:37,600
ancient civilization had the god self

834
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:41,770
icon it is a lost icon of a universal

835
00:32:46,500 --> 00:32:44,050
religion that existed in ancient times

836
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:46,510
the gods health icon is basically a

837
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:50,290
human being with his two arms his or her

838
00:32:56,130 --> 00:32:53,890
two arms outspread to the left and to

839
00:32:59,460 --> 00:32:56,140
the right and usually holding parallel

840
00:33:00,690 --> 00:32:59,470
objects in each hand and so again you

841
00:33:02,220 --> 00:33:00,700
know the left side of the body the

842
00:33:05,990 --> 00:33:02,230
inside the right side of the body of the

843
00:33:09,060 --> 00:33:06,000
yang side the pose is showing us that

844
00:33:11,490 --> 00:33:09,070
duality of left and right is important

845
00:33:15,090 --> 00:33:11,500
here and when you extend both arms to

846
00:33:17,940 --> 00:33:15,100
the sides then the spinal column and the

847
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:17,950
head are your middle so if you think

848
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:19,570
about it in terms of the triptych or the

849
00:33:23,060 --> 00:33:21,090
three doors the left

850
00:33:25,220 --> 00:33:23,070
and holding that object is the left side

851
00:33:27,740 --> 00:33:25,230
the inside the right hand holding that

852
00:33:30,590 --> 00:33:27,750
object is the yang right side and your

853
00:33:34,370 --> 00:33:30,600
brain and your spinal column or your

854
00:33:36,350 --> 00:33:34,380
Center are the god part of you and I'm

855
00:33:37,610 --> 00:33:36,360
still researching it even though I've

856
00:33:39,620 --> 00:33:37,620
put even though I've put together

857
00:33:41,390 --> 00:33:39,630
collages and I wrote articles about it

858
00:33:44,210 --> 00:33:41,400
and my website and it's also a chapter

859
00:33:45,710 --> 00:33:44,220
in my book my in written in stone but

860
00:33:52,700 --> 00:33:45,720
I'm still I mean there's a lot more to

861
00:33:53,900 --> 00:33:52,710
study about it the rebus of six $0.16

862
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:53,910
seventeenth and eighteenth-century

863
00:34:00,260 --> 00:33:56,730
manuscripts is also a symbol of the gods

864
00:34:01,730 --> 00:34:00,270
self you know in in one hand the rebus

865
00:34:03,710 --> 00:34:01,740
holds the Sun and the other hand the

866
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:03,720
rebus holds the moon the left is the

867
00:34:08,900 --> 00:34:06,090
moon the right is the Sun you have the

868
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:08,910
the god self icon also on cathedrals and

869
00:34:14,210 --> 00:34:11,010
gothic gothic cathedrals churches it's

870
00:34:16,340 --> 00:34:14,220
carved usually holding twin animals on

871
00:34:18,590 --> 00:34:16,350
both sides and that's the animal self

872
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:18,600
you know as I said we're an eternal

873
00:34:22,970 --> 00:34:20,850
deity we're a God manifesting into the

874
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:22,980
material world and how we manifest is in

875
00:34:26,420 --> 00:34:24,570
the form of an animal you know we are

876
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:26,430
animals that's that's the the naked

877
00:34:30,590 --> 00:34:28,410
truth of it and that's why that that's

878
00:34:33,110 --> 00:34:30,600
why the god self holds queen animals

879
00:34:34,790 --> 00:34:33,120
because in order to manifest into the

880
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:34,800
world we have to put on an animal's body

881
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:36,810
that's a big part of the occult I don't

882
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:38,610
hear anybody talking about too much you

883
00:34:44,390 --> 00:34:41,690
know we are animals we're a we're a god

884
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:44,400
manifesting as an animal and that's why

885
00:34:48,980 --> 00:34:46,290
you have the two animals on either side

886
00:34:51,020 --> 00:34:48,990
because we put on the clothing of an

887
00:34:52,850 --> 00:34:51,030
animal and that's what the god self is

888
00:34:56,510 --> 00:34:52,860
telling us that you know in order to

889
00:34:58,190 --> 00:34:56,520
incarnate into the world we had to put

890
00:35:00,260 --> 00:34:58,200
on this clothing of at this animal

891
00:35:01,940 --> 00:35:00,270
clothing this clothing of flesh and so a

892
00:35:03,890 --> 00:35:01,950
part of the meaning of life is to find

893
00:35:07,100 --> 00:35:03,900
the truth find the middle balance find

894
00:35:08,870 --> 00:35:07,110
the true center and you know transcend

895
00:35:11,030 --> 00:35:08,880
the dualities and find the higher self

896
00:35:13,940 --> 00:35:11,040
remember who you are you know know

897
00:35:15,590 --> 00:35:13,950
thyself know thyself so I know self be

898
00:35:18,830 --> 00:35:15,600
true right right right

899
00:35:20,510 --> 00:35:18,840
I thought just the list of the pictures

900
00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:20,520
you have on your website of all the

901
00:35:26,860 --> 00:35:23,730
times this God self icon shows up I mean

902
00:35:29,270 --> 00:35:26,870
it's really really interesting and the

903
00:35:31,220 --> 00:35:29,280
archetype is always the same the animals

904
00:35:33,230 --> 00:35:31,230
different but the it's the same two

905
00:35:34,579 --> 00:35:33,240
outstretched arms and the two animals

906
00:35:37,370 --> 00:35:34,589
that I I know too

907
00:35:39,650 --> 00:35:37,380
the most seemed to be snakes and lions

908
00:35:41,630 --> 00:35:39,660
are some kind of some kind of big cat

909
00:35:44,209 --> 00:35:41,640
and I thought that was really

910
00:35:46,609 --> 00:35:44,219
interesting because when people do

911
00:35:49,130 --> 00:35:46,619
certain psychedelics like ayahuasca they

912
00:35:51,979 --> 00:35:49,140
say always seem to say they see snakes

913
00:35:54,229 --> 00:35:51,989
and then also the green lion in

914
00:35:57,019 --> 00:35:54,239
alchemical writings was usually what

915
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:57,029
they're used to refer to marijuana and I

916
00:35:59,930 --> 00:35:58,170
don't know if you've explored that

917
00:36:01,459 --> 00:35:59,940
component or if that's even a component

918
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:01,469
maybe I'm stretching but when you get

919
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:03,930
into developing the higher self and the

920
00:36:09,349 --> 00:36:06,210
third eye I mean these things dovetail

921
00:36:12,739 --> 00:36:09,359
into psychedelics pretty well absolutely

922
00:36:14,870 --> 00:36:12,749
yeah absolutely Greg yeah and it's very

923
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:14,880
very interesting you know everything you

924
00:36:19,039 --> 00:36:17,130
said is absolutely correct I'll just add

925
00:36:22,309 --> 00:36:19,049
that you know for example the twin

926
00:36:24,859 --> 00:36:22,319
serpents on both sides a common theme in

927
00:36:27,019 --> 00:36:24,869
almost every single ancients of all the

928
00:36:29,839 --> 00:36:27,029
great centers of civilization in

929
00:36:33,709 --> 00:36:29,849
antiquity had those twin serpents on

930
00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:33,719
both sides and so you know and the

931
00:36:37,670 --> 00:36:35,609
serpent has a lot of different meanings

932
00:36:40,819 --> 00:36:37,680
and it depends on what context you're

933
00:36:42,589 --> 00:36:40,829
you're looking at it but you know it

934
00:36:44,509 --> 00:36:42,599
could have a negative connotation I mean

935
00:36:47,150 --> 00:36:44,519
snakes are very serpent so the lowest

936
00:36:49,309 --> 00:36:47,160
thing they crawl on their bellies you

937
00:36:51,259 --> 00:36:49,319
know the women are usually afraid of

938
00:36:52,759 --> 00:36:51,269
serpents right and so they have a

939
00:36:54,229 --> 00:36:52,769
negative conversation people usually

940
00:36:56,420 --> 00:36:54,239
scare to them as they're scary they're

941
00:36:59,749 --> 00:36:56,430
the evil and and that type of thing

942
00:37:01,489 --> 00:36:59,759
they're also very powerful and and they

943
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:01,499
symbolize eternal life because they're

944
00:37:05,870 --> 00:37:04,410
able to slow their skin and so they

945
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:05,880
never really die you know because they

946
00:37:10,489 --> 00:37:07,890
always just take off that layer of skin

947
00:37:12,380 --> 00:37:10,499
it's like it's like a soul reincarnating

948
00:37:14,509 --> 00:37:12,390
constantly you know the soul is the

949
00:37:16,940 --> 00:37:14,519
serpent and the skin are the bodies that

950
00:37:18,109 --> 00:37:16,950
you just shed every time that you're

951
00:37:20,269 --> 00:37:18,119
done with them

952
00:37:23,450 --> 00:37:20,279
so I mean yeah there's there's a lot

953
00:37:25,549 --> 00:37:23,460
there's a lot there that as I'm I'm

954
00:37:28,219 --> 00:37:25,559
putting some of it in my book and I'm

955
00:37:31,069 --> 00:37:28,229
and I'm exploring other parts of it I

956
00:37:32,839 --> 00:37:31,079
have ideas and it's hard because I like

957
00:37:35,450 --> 00:37:32,849
to back everything up with images and

958
00:37:37,130 --> 00:37:35,460
photos and quotes I don't like when

959
00:37:38,900 --> 00:37:37,140
authors just talk about things and just

960
00:37:41,539 --> 00:37:38,910
we're supposed to believe that at face

961
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:41,549
value true I'd like I like it when you

962
00:37:45,170 --> 00:37:42,930
know I show photos and then I show

963
00:37:47,089 --> 00:37:45,180
another photo from some other culture

964
00:37:48,710 --> 00:37:47,099
and then I saw something from you know

965
00:37:50,210 --> 00:37:48,720
the 17th century

966
00:37:52,070 --> 00:37:50,220
another thing from the 18th century and

967
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:52,080
then a cool quote from like Joseph

968
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:54,570
Campbell or Alan Watts you know and it's

969
00:37:58,670 --> 00:37:56,130
like ties it all together in like wow

970
00:38:00,230 --> 00:37:58,680
this I always look at my writing or my

971
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:00,240
blog articles or my book like I'm

972
00:38:04,460 --> 00:38:02,370
presenting evidence in court and I have

973
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:04,470
to convince a jury that this is true I

974
00:38:09,020 --> 00:38:07,290
give lectures in Masonic halls and every

975
00:38:10,790 --> 00:38:09,030
time I every at the end of every lecture

976
00:38:12,980 --> 00:38:10,800
somebody gets up and says that's the

977
00:38:14,570 --> 00:38:12,990
best lecture I've ever seen it was like

978
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:14,580
you're presenting evidence in court and

979
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:16,770
that's that's important to me because I

980
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:19,050
got to convince myself of it first and

981
00:38:22,790 --> 00:38:20,490
if I'm not convinced of it I'm not gonna

982
00:38:26,300 --> 00:38:22,800
try to convince anybody else of it well

983
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:26,310
said man and I do think that the serpent

984
00:38:29,570 --> 00:38:27,690
symbolism you're right it is so

985
00:38:32,330 --> 00:38:29,580
pervasive everywhere and I think you

986
00:38:35,240 --> 00:38:32,340
make a compelling case about the secrets

987
00:38:37,010 --> 00:38:35,250
going into secret societies but you know

988
00:38:38,870 --> 00:38:37,020
once they were up above the surface and

989
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:38,880
it seems like the Vatican and some of

990
00:38:44,630 --> 00:38:42,090
the huge dynasty religions wanted to

991
00:38:46,460 --> 00:38:44,640
snuff that information out and maybe the

992
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:46,470
Vatican went after the religions and the

993
00:38:49,790 --> 00:38:47,850
Illuminati went after the secret

994
00:38:51,470 --> 00:38:49,800
societies and together their goal was to

995
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:51,480
weed it out but I also find it

996
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:52,770
compelling that one of the biggest

997
00:38:58,490 --> 00:38:55,290
stories in the Bible Adam and even the

998
00:39:00,380 --> 00:38:58,500
serpent I mean if we take the idea that

999
00:39:01,670 --> 00:39:00,390
the Vatican was responsible for removing

1000
00:39:03,050 --> 00:39:01,680
a lot of this knowledge I mean you can

1001
00:39:05,150 --> 00:39:03,060
look at that story right there and

1002
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:05,160
they're basically though the whole point

1003
00:39:08,270 --> 00:39:06,810
of the story is stay away from the tree

1004
00:39:09,740 --> 00:39:08,280
of knowledge I mean how funny is that

1005
00:39:10,910 --> 00:39:09,750
that it's one of the primary stories in

1006
00:39:12,860 --> 00:39:10,920
the Catholic Bible and they're telling

1007
00:39:15,500 --> 00:39:12,870
you right there what they want to do

1008
00:39:17,570 --> 00:39:15,510
separate man from knowledge but it's not

1009
00:39:20,270 --> 00:39:17,580
them it's it's God that wants that you

1010
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:20,280
know it's kind of funny yeah that's I

1011
00:39:23,950 --> 00:39:22,410
you know there was it there was a point

1012
00:39:27,470 --> 00:39:23,960
in my life where I just stopped

1013
00:39:30,860 --> 00:39:27,480
everything with Judaism Christianity and

1014
00:39:33,170 --> 00:39:30,870
Islam and it was a very early time thank

1015
00:39:34,850 --> 00:39:33,180
goodness where I just cut it I just said

1016
00:39:36,950 --> 00:39:34,860
you know I'm not getting anything out of

1017
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:36,960
the Bible I've read it so many times I'm

1018
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:38,370
just not getting anything out of it and

1019
00:39:42,770 --> 00:39:40,650
you know Judaism it all stems from

1020
00:39:44,870 --> 00:39:42,780
Judaism and I don't really see that as

1021
00:39:46,460 --> 00:39:44,880
being a highly spiritual religion and a

1022
00:39:49,010 --> 00:39:46,470
lot of people look at all is this as

1023
00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:49,020
esoteric but why should i why should I

1024
00:39:53,690 --> 00:39:50,730
bother going through all the esoteric

1025
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:53,700
cutting through all the exoteric to try

1026
00:39:57,860 --> 00:39:55,770
to find the esoteric when I can just

1027
00:40:00,020 --> 00:39:57,870
easily go to Hinduism Buddhism and

1028
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:00,030
Taoism in the East and find it right

1029
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:01,530
there on the surface yeah

1030
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:02,850
so it's interesting yeah

1031
00:40:05,930 --> 00:40:04,410
to go through the Bible and try to

1032
00:40:08,150 --> 00:40:05,940
figure out what they're saying yeah I

1033
00:40:10,610 --> 00:40:08,160
guess that you know I did that for a

1034
00:40:13,730 --> 00:40:10,620
little while I got bored of it because I

1035
00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:13,740
would just rather read the the brilliant

1036
00:40:19,430 --> 00:40:17,040
and powerful writings of the east and

1037
00:40:20,510 --> 00:40:19,440
and just get it right there and and you

1038
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:20,520
know it's right it's right there on the

1039
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:21,810
surface you know there's no digging

1040
00:40:26,030 --> 00:40:24,570
there's no you know there's no trying to

1041
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:26,040
have to figure out what the secret

1042
00:40:30,230 --> 00:40:28,530
meaning is that's why I put those books

1043
00:40:31,850 --> 00:40:30,240
I put the Bible down I put the Quran

1044
00:40:33,980 --> 00:40:31,860
down I've read the Quran too several

1045
00:40:36,830 --> 00:40:33,990
times and I actually liked it put it in

1046
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:36,840
the Bible but uh yeah I I didn't I

1047
00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:39,450
didn't I the month the mosaic religions

1048
00:40:43,220 --> 00:40:41,250
the monotheistic religions Judaism

1049
00:40:45,980 --> 00:40:43,230
Christianity Islam for me they had

1050
00:40:48,590 --> 00:40:45,990
nothing to offer for me yeah I think

1051
00:40:51,530 --> 00:40:48,600
they're for the birds to look at this

1052
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:51,540
architecture how can we explain cultures

1053
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:53,370
on every major continent in all these

1054
00:40:58,610 --> 00:40:55,890
different areas across the globe having

1055
00:41:00,290 --> 00:40:58,620
the same architecture when they aren't

1056
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:00,300
supposed to have been communicating how

1057
00:41:03,650 --> 00:41:02,010
could they communicate without modern

1058
00:41:06,530 --> 00:41:03,660
technology can we solve that mystery

1059
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:06,540
yeah that's that's first off you know

1060
00:41:11,900 --> 00:41:08,850
the writing that the similarities that I

1061
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:11,910
show my main goal is to show that all

1062
00:41:15,890 --> 00:41:14,010
these cultures shared the same wisdom

1063
00:41:18,050 --> 00:41:15,900
okay if that's the to me that's the most

1064
00:41:20,170 --> 00:41:18,060
important thing they all shared the same

1065
00:41:23,390 --> 00:41:20,180
religion the same universe I call it a

1066
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:23,400
universal religion its perennial wisdom

1067
00:41:30,050 --> 00:41:26,370
fits sacred science fits whatever it is

1068
00:41:32,810 --> 00:41:30,060
it was a very powerful teaching you know

1069
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:32,820
esoteric tradition whatever to find the

1070
00:41:36,380 --> 00:41:34,410
higher self between the duality that's

1071
00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:36,390
the key right there you're an eternal

1072
00:41:39,620 --> 00:41:38,250
being manifesting in the material world

1073
00:41:42,620 --> 00:41:39,630
that's it okay

1074
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:42,630
the second part is just your question

1075
00:41:45,890 --> 00:41:44,010
right there how the hell did all these

1076
00:41:48,530 --> 00:41:45,900
cultures have the same that's the next

1077
00:41:51,470 --> 00:41:48,540
part okay so once I figured out that

1078
00:41:53,810 --> 00:41:51,480
they all have the same symbols and

1079
00:41:54,980 --> 00:41:53,820
teaching and etc etc I said okay now

1080
00:41:57,860 --> 00:41:54,990
what is the meaning of us now there's

1081
00:42:00,110 --> 00:41:57,870
two explanations diffusion which is it

1082
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:00,120
all started in one place and then slowly

1083
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:03,090
moved across the world to the next place

1084
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:06,450
or you could look at it like there was

1085
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:09,810
as I was saying before a golden age okay

1086
00:42:15,530 --> 00:42:12,930
there was a time when all the cultures

1087
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:15,540
were united right and they called it

1088
00:42:18,380 --> 00:42:16,290
Atlantis or

1089
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:18,390
or you could say that Atlantis was a

1090
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:19,650
Content in the middle of the Atlantic

1091
00:42:23,690 --> 00:42:21,410
Ocean and sank beneath the Seas

1092
00:42:25,310 --> 00:42:23,700
survivors fled to different parts of the

1093
00:42:27,590 --> 00:42:25,320
world taking their wisdom with them

1094
00:42:29,630 --> 00:42:27,600
that's why you have pyramids triptych

1095
00:42:33,260 --> 00:42:29,640
temples mummification in different parts

1096
00:42:35,870 --> 00:42:33,270
of the world like China Egypt Mexico so

1097
00:42:37,730 --> 00:42:35,880
there's a lot there's these ideas the

1098
00:42:39,890 --> 00:42:37,740
inner tradition if you're going with the

1099
00:42:42,740 --> 00:42:39,900
occult tradition and that's what I like

1100
00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:42,750
to do I like to I liked from my ideas to

1101
00:42:47,420 --> 00:42:44,730
stay along those lines you know why

1102
00:42:49,940 --> 00:42:47,430
because for hundreds and hundreds of

1103
00:42:53,240 --> 00:42:49,950
years intelligent people have been

1104
00:42:55,610 --> 00:42:53,250
following that tradition and that's why

1105
00:42:57,860 --> 00:42:55,620
I try not to use words like a matrix

1106
00:42:59,720 --> 00:42:57,870
you know the matrix I know that's a big

1107
00:43:01,850 --> 00:42:59,730
popular word not nowadays it's fine it's

1108
00:43:04,070 --> 00:43:01,860
cool it's good Pickler people are waking

1109
00:43:07,340 --> 00:43:04,080
up I love it but for me I like to stick

1110
00:43:09,890 --> 00:43:07,350
to life as a dream why because that's

1111
00:43:12,620 --> 00:43:09,900
what the tradition the occult tradition

1112
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:12,630
the inner tradition stick with what

1113
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:14,010
people have been talking about for

1114
00:43:20,090 --> 00:43:16,530
centuries because then we can all sort

1115
00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:20,100
of play off the same table you know we

1116
00:43:23,870 --> 00:43:22,110
could all play off the same but anyway

1117
00:43:25,970 --> 00:43:23,880
the concept is is that we're all

1118
00:43:27,740 --> 00:43:25,980
dreaming that of life that's what does

1119
00:43:30,380 --> 00:43:27,750
when the soul manifests into the

1120
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:30,390
material world it's like this God having

1121
00:43:34,070 --> 00:43:32,490
a dream and you'll find that everywhere

1122
00:43:36,260 --> 00:43:34,080
I mean Rumi talks about it

1123
00:43:39,140 --> 00:43:36,270
Shakespeare there's there's a famous

1124
00:43:42,170 --> 00:43:39,150
line about all life being rounded by a

1125
00:43:43,970 --> 00:43:42,180
sleep you know jury was so such stuff

1126
00:43:45,860 --> 00:43:43,980
the dreams are made of life is what such

1127
00:43:47,060 --> 00:43:45,870
stuff that dreams are made on something

1128
00:43:49,070 --> 00:43:47,070
like this

1129
00:43:50,660 --> 00:43:49,080
row row row your boat gently down the

1130
00:43:54,110 --> 00:43:50,670
stream merrily merrily merrily merrily

1131
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:54,120
life is just a dream you know there's

1132
00:43:57,650 --> 00:43:55,650
plenty of stuff on my website just type

1133
00:44:00,530 --> 00:43:57,660
in with Google Richard corsaro and dream

1134
00:44:03,650 --> 00:44:00,540
God stuff like that you'll find it lots

1135
00:44:05,420 --> 00:44:03,660
of quotes lots of information about that

1136
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:05,430
but anyway getting back to what we were

1137
00:44:10,790 --> 00:44:08,370
talking about yeah that there's this

1138
00:44:13,460 --> 00:44:10,800
whole a tradition that I think we should

1139
00:44:16,340 --> 00:44:13,470
stick to which says that there was an

1140
00:44:20,060 --> 00:44:16,350
ancient Golden Age some philosophers

1141
00:44:21,740 --> 00:44:20,070
linked it to Atlantis some thinkers just

1142
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:21,750
don't link into anything just call it a

1143
00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:23,610
tradition but they say that there was

1144
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:26,250
this Golden Age of Atlantis and they say

1145
00:44:30,410 --> 00:44:28,770
that the people in Atlantis

1146
00:44:32,420 --> 00:44:30,420
in touch with their divine self Plato

1147
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:32,430
talks about it he says the the reason

1148
00:44:39,140 --> 00:44:36,330
Atlantis fell was because exactly he

1149
00:44:41,150 --> 00:44:39,150
says the gods did not the gods that were

1150
00:44:43,100 --> 00:44:41,160
in Atlantis that they the people that

1151
00:44:45,620 --> 00:44:43,110
lived in Atlantis lost the connection

1152
00:44:46,820 --> 00:44:45,630
with the divine within them and to me is

1153
00:44:48,530 --> 00:44:46,830
basically they forgot that they were

1154
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:48,540
they they started to become more and

1155
00:44:51,890 --> 00:44:50,370
more attractive to the material part of

1156
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:51,900
life and they forgot that they were

1157
00:44:57,290 --> 00:44:54,450
divine entities they forgot that they

1158
00:45:00,110 --> 00:44:57,300
were divinities and so that slowly

1159
00:45:02,630 --> 00:45:00,120
dropped off another part of the teaching

1160
00:45:05,540 --> 00:45:02,640
says that the third eye the Atlanteans

1161
00:45:08,420 --> 00:45:05,550
had the power of the third eye and that

1162
00:45:10,310 --> 00:45:08,430
shrunk down to what today we call the

1163
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:10,320
pineal gland and I talked about that in

1164
00:45:14,270 --> 00:45:12,210
my book in my research tremendously

1165
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:14,280
because it's one of the main symbols of

1166
00:45:18,380 --> 00:45:16,290
Freemasonry not only do you have the

1167
00:45:19,910 --> 00:45:18,390
that jaqen and the Boaz pillar but at

1168
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:19,920
the top of those two pillar those two

1169
00:45:25,220 --> 00:45:21,930
pillars form the bottom parts of a

1170
00:45:27,500 --> 00:45:25,230
triangle and the apex of that triangle

1171
00:45:29,690 --> 00:45:27,510
formed the inside the apex inside the

1172
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:29,700
triangle ISM is a giant luminous eye a

1173
00:45:33,980 --> 00:45:32,370
centered eye and that's the third eye

1174
00:45:35,540 --> 00:45:33,990
and that's clear you know and that's

1175
00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:35,550
something that I've been talking about

1176
00:45:40,790 --> 00:45:38,730
and writing about for years now and

1177
00:45:43,010 --> 00:45:40,800
that's again part of the ancient

1178
00:45:45,590 --> 00:45:43,020
tradition part of the occult part of

1179
00:45:47,630 --> 00:45:45,600
Freemasonry it goes back to Atlantis the

1180
00:45:49,130 --> 00:45:47,640
concept of the third eye goes back to

1181
00:45:51,260 --> 00:45:49,140
Atlantis they called it the mind's eye

1182
00:45:54,350 --> 00:45:51,270
the inner eye whereas the two physical

1183
00:45:56,270 --> 00:45:54,360
eyes see outward the spiritual mind's

1184
00:45:58,400 --> 00:45:56,280
eye the third eye sees inward at the

1185
00:46:01,100 --> 00:45:58,410
inner soul it's how you recognize the

1186
00:46:03,230 --> 00:46:01,110
Higher Self it's how you see that you're

1187
00:46:05,300 --> 00:46:03,240
a divine being and not just the the

1188
00:46:06,860 --> 00:46:05,310
animal that you see in the mirror so

1189
00:46:09,710 --> 00:46:06,870
again talking too much my heart no

1190
00:46:11,270 --> 00:46:09,720
worries so I guess I would ask you know

1191
00:46:13,660 --> 00:46:11,280
now everything today and today's world

1192
00:46:17,270 --> 00:46:13,670
is all jumbled up there's no real

1193
00:46:19,490 --> 00:46:17,280
preservation of that golden era culture

1194
00:46:22,370 --> 00:46:19,500
or I mean is there are there pockets of

1195
00:46:24,530 --> 00:46:22,380
tribes in the Amazon Peru that you think

1196
00:46:26,270 --> 00:46:24,540
perhaps could have been undisturbed that

1197
00:46:29,270 --> 00:46:26,280
still hold the same tenants and

1198
00:46:31,820 --> 00:46:29,280
principles of the Golden Age I don't

1199
00:46:34,490 --> 00:46:31,830
think so no it's all gone yeah I think

1200
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:34,500
so the the closest we can come to it at

1201
00:46:38,630 --> 00:46:36,090
this point is what I'm trying to do with

1202
00:46:40,430 --> 00:46:38,640
my research which is show all the

1203
00:46:42,109 --> 00:46:40,440
similarities and all the parallels

1204
00:46:44,630 --> 00:46:42,119
between cultures on different

1205
00:46:46,069 --> 00:46:44,640
sides in the oceans like the the

1206
00:46:48,650 --> 00:46:46,079
Egyptians and the Mayans the Egyptians

1207
00:46:51,789 --> 00:46:48,660
and the Inca and prega cultures of Peru

1208
00:46:55,009 --> 00:46:51,799
the the cultures that exist in

1209
00:46:57,319 --> 00:46:55,019
present-day Cambodia and Indonesia and

1210
00:46:59,239 --> 00:46:57,329
the cultures in the new world like the

1211
00:47:02,089 --> 00:46:59,249
Mayan and the Aztec and things like that

1212
00:47:03,799 --> 00:47:02,099
China you know ancient China's culture

1213
00:47:06,380 --> 00:47:03,809
etc you know there's tremendous

1214
00:47:08,329 --> 00:47:06,390
similarities and that's I think the

1215
00:47:11,749 --> 00:47:08,339
closest that will come to the lost

1216
00:47:13,549 --> 00:47:11,759
wisdom and again you know everything's

1217
00:47:15,890 --> 00:47:13,559
corrupt these days including the

1218
00:47:17,989 --> 00:47:15,900
universities the universities the way

1219
00:47:19,370 --> 00:47:17,999
they set this up there's not a professor

1220
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:19,380
there who's hiding anything he's just

1221
00:47:23,660 --> 00:47:21,930
wants to keep his job you know he wants

1222
00:47:26,569 --> 00:47:23,670
to keep his job ease he's not really

1223
00:47:28,670 --> 00:47:26,579
interested in teaching something that is

1224
00:47:31,099 --> 00:47:28,680
not part of the curriculum you know I

1225
00:47:32,749 --> 00:47:31,109
learned when I was in when I wanted to

1226
00:47:35,089 --> 00:47:32,759
become an Egyptologist when I was in my

1227
00:47:37,249 --> 00:47:35,099
early 20s and I talked about Atlantis

1228
00:47:38,989 --> 00:47:37,259
and they said ho ho no no you know we

1229
00:47:41,420 --> 00:47:38,999
don't talk about it llantas his son and

1230
00:47:43,009 --> 00:47:41,430
so that's what I sort of said to myself

1231
00:47:44,420 --> 00:47:43,019
well I'm gonna go out and find evidence

1232
00:47:47,720 --> 00:47:44,430
of Atlantis and I'm going to show you

1233
00:47:50,690 --> 00:47:47,730
guys that you know there's it existed or

1234
00:47:53,569 --> 00:47:50,700
that or that all the civilizations of

1235
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:53,579
old exist had the same wisdom tradition

1236
00:47:56,930 --> 00:47:54,930
and where did it come from it must have

1237
00:47:59,930 --> 00:47:56,940
come from an Atlantis type culture or

1238
00:48:02,420 --> 00:47:59,940
higher Golden Age civilization and you

1239
00:48:03,499 --> 00:48:02,430
know civilization must be deteriorating

1240
00:48:05,359 --> 00:48:03,509
it's not getting better it's

1241
00:48:08,420 --> 00:48:05,369
deteriorating you know century after

1242
00:48:10,249 --> 00:48:08,430
century age after ages take it's getting

1243
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:10,259
lower and lower and by the way there's

1244
00:48:16,479 --> 00:48:12,690
going to be a time when it completely

1245
00:48:19,069 --> 00:48:16,489
collapses and then it will begin to

1246
00:48:21,319 --> 00:48:19,079
ascend again so it's not just a downward

1247
00:48:23,900 --> 00:48:21,329
cycle it's a it's a complete cycle it

1248
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:23,910
goes down you know it goes down and then

1249
00:48:27,620 --> 00:48:25,650
it goes up again and then it goes down

1250
00:48:29,299 --> 00:48:27,630
and then it goes up again so you know

1251
00:48:31,700 --> 00:48:29,309
we're in the down cycle we're probably

1252
00:48:35,210 --> 00:48:31,710
scraping the bottom almost that's the

1253
00:48:37,220 --> 00:48:35,220
way I see it that's the way I see and I

1254
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:37,230
do love that perspective that we

1255
00:48:41,329 --> 00:48:39,450
devolved from greatness rather than

1256
00:48:42,979 --> 00:48:41,339
ascended from apes because like I

1257
00:48:44,809 --> 00:48:42,989
mentioned in the intro it does seem like

1258
00:48:46,910 --> 00:48:44,819
every time we're taught something and

1259
00:48:49,460 --> 00:48:46,920
it's drilled into our heads aggressively

1260
00:48:51,019 --> 00:48:49,470
the opposite seems to be true so then

1261
00:48:52,789 --> 00:48:51,029
that would be a perfect example of it

1262
00:48:54,559 --> 00:48:52,799
we're told we evolved from these

1263
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:54,569
primitive Apes and that we have been

1264
00:48:58,789 --> 00:48:55,890
marching on this steady

1265
00:49:00,380 --> 00:48:58,799
incline towards progress and the

1266
00:49:02,870 --> 00:49:00,390
pinnacle of human development and

1267
00:49:04,730 --> 00:49:02,880
meanwhile we're uncovering all these

1268
00:49:06,620 --> 00:49:04,740
ancient things that seemed to point to a

1269
00:49:09,980 --> 00:49:06,630
complete flipping of that script and

1270
00:49:12,890 --> 00:49:09,990
that it seems more like a humanities

1271
00:49:15,099 --> 00:49:12,900
timeline long game of telephone where as

1272
00:49:17,630 --> 00:49:15,109
we get further away from this original

1273
00:49:19,279 --> 00:49:17,640
seating of knowledge we lose more and

1274
00:49:21,109 --> 00:49:19,289
more and more of it and now we're just

1275
00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:21,119
fumbling around in the dark trying to

1276
00:49:25,519 --> 00:49:23,609
figure it all out again yeah that's it

1277
00:49:27,410 --> 00:49:25,529
and as you look at these ancient

1278
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:27,420
monuments you know like Stonehenge the

1279
00:49:32,259 --> 00:49:29,490
Great Pyramid I mean there's a ton of

1280
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:32,269
monuments around the world that are

1281
00:49:37,849 --> 00:49:35,970
unbelievably sophisticated and for for

1282
00:49:40,460 --> 00:49:37,859
grown men and women to look at these

1283
00:49:41,930 --> 00:49:40,470
monuments and sneer and say oh the

1284
00:49:44,029 --> 00:49:41,940
ancients could have easily done that I

1285
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:44,039
mean that's unbelievable I'm not saying

1286
00:49:48,500 --> 00:49:46,170
they had higher technology necessarily I

1287
00:49:50,779 --> 00:49:48,510
think they were more spiritual beings I

1288
00:49:53,569 --> 00:49:50,789
think that they were you know they had

1289
00:49:56,150 --> 00:49:53,579
much more power than we do you know

1290
00:49:58,400 --> 00:49:56,160
we're we're disconnected from the source

1291
00:50:00,890 --> 00:49:58,410
where we don't know our Center we're

1292
00:50:03,230 --> 00:50:00,900
unbalanced we're sick you know they

1293
00:50:05,359 --> 00:50:03,240
weren't they think of them thinking of

1294
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:05,369
people that build saqsaywaman in Peru or

1295
00:50:10,549 --> 00:50:07,890
the Great Pyramid or Stonehenge as a

1296
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:10,559
group of buddhas or Christ's you know

1297
00:50:13,730 --> 00:50:12,450
because that's what they were and that's

1298
00:50:15,289 --> 00:50:13,740
where people I think are making a

1299
00:50:17,539 --> 00:50:15,299
mistake today though you know the Saints

1300
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:17,549
in advanced technology I don't I don't

1301
00:50:21,380 --> 00:50:19,410
like that really it doesn't it doesn't

1302
00:50:23,180 --> 00:50:21,390
resonate with me because it doesn't fit

1303
00:50:24,559 --> 00:50:23,190
in with what I see as being a golden age

1304
00:50:26,289 --> 00:50:24,569
in the past and I don't believe that the

1305
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:26,299
Golden Age necessarily have the

1306
00:50:30,230 --> 00:50:28,890
machining technologies that's the way we

1307
00:50:32,779 --> 00:50:30,240
look at it today because that's the only

1308
00:50:34,730 --> 00:50:32,789
way we can comprehend it you know but

1309
00:50:36,470 --> 00:50:34,740
the whole concept of a Golden Age I

1310
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:36,480
think and if you read the writings of

1311
00:50:39,349 --> 00:50:37,650
Plato and a lot of the other

1312
00:50:41,269 --> 00:50:39,359
philosophers not just Plato by the way a

1313
00:50:44,980 --> 00:50:41,279
lot of philosophers talked about

1314
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:44,990
Atlantis and and they were higher

1315
00:50:49,190 --> 00:50:47,970
spiritually and so when you have in

1316
00:50:51,019 --> 00:50:49,200
touch when you're in touch with yourself

1317
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:51,029
that's the whole concept of the Jesus

1318
00:50:56,390 --> 00:50:53,450
story the Christ story and all the

1319
00:50:58,730 --> 00:50:56,400
Osiris Trek stories and the Mithras and

1320
00:51:01,849 --> 00:50:58,740
all the Sun gods of history you know

1321
00:51:04,730 --> 00:51:01,859
those they're examples for the masses of

1322
00:51:06,829 --> 00:51:04,740
what you can do you can be a Buddha you

1323
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:06,839
can be a Christ you are a Buddha you are

1324
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:08,210
a Christ you

1325
00:51:12,970 --> 00:51:10,490
that power within you it's just a matter

1326
00:51:14,980 --> 00:51:12,980
of finding it Bala finding the balance

1327
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:14,990
striking the balance of opposites

1328
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:17,210
transcending the opposites finding the

1329
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:18,650
center with in finding your higher-self

1330
00:51:23,980 --> 00:51:20,570
those people that built those monuments

1331
00:51:26,290 --> 00:51:23,990
were all spiritually centered they were

1332
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:26,300
all Christ's and Buddha's or approaching

1333
00:51:30,220 --> 00:51:28,130
Christ's and Buddha's you know we could

1334
00:51:33,820 --> 00:51:30,230
we could call them Bodhisattvas or we

1335
00:51:35,980 --> 00:51:33,830
could call them enlightened beings that

1336
00:51:38,470 --> 00:51:35,990
were not necessarily at the level of

1337
00:51:40,270 --> 00:51:38,480
Buddha but you know a lot closer than we

1338
00:51:43,810 --> 00:51:40,280
are today who you know we take

1339
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:43,820
pharmaceuticals we we you know we live

1340
00:51:48,220 --> 00:51:45,890
as slaves because we have to work and we

1341
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:48,230
eat food that's horrible and and

1342
00:51:52,150 --> 00:51:50,210
genetically modified and and you know

1343
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:52,160
etc etc I don't have to go through the

1344
00:51:56,770 --> 00:51:54,170
line you know you know basically what

1345
00:51:58,870 --> 00:51:56,780
kind of world we're living in right but

1346
00:52:01,230 --> 00:51:58,880
I mean that that is super interesting

1347
00:52:04,750 --> 00:52:01,240
and it could be that the drive to

1348
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:04,760
advance technology is to fill the hole

1349
00:52:08,050 --> 00:52:06,530
left by removing this component of

1350
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:08,060
natural knowledge because I guess it

1351
00:52:11,740 --> 00:52:10,010
didn't seem like so pressing to them

1352
00:52:13,570 --> 00:52:11,750
when they were whole beings when they

1353
00:52:15,940 --> 00:52:13,580
went through the inner journey they

1354
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:15,950
didn't have this need to tinker too much

1355
00:52:19,570 --> 00:52:17,690
on the outside although they did have

1356
00:52:21,130 --> 00:52:19,580
some building technology of course

1357
00:52:22,839 --> 00:52:21,140
because we look at the structures and

1358
00:52:26,470 --> 00:52:22,849
were just like in amazement of how they

1359
00:52:28,359 --> 00:52:26,480
did that but as far as travel and things

1360
00:52:30,670 --> 00:52:28,369
like you know obviously computers and

1361
00:52:32,079 --> 00:52:30,680
mechanical things I'm not so sure how

1362
00:52:33,700 --> 00:52:32,089
that all worked out I guess another

1363
00:52:35,620 --> 00:52:33,710
possibility I entertain is that

1364
00:52:37,390 --> 00:52:35,630
obviously the ancient aliens idea is

1365
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:37,400
huge and that this knowledge came from a

1366
00:52:41,470 --> 00:52:39,650
third party somehow and maybe that could

1367
00:52:44,050 --> 00:52:41,480
also tie into the Atlantis civilization

1368
00:52:46,630 --> 00:52:44,060
but I'm also compelled by the idea that

1369
00:52:48,460 --> 00:52:46,640
if there was a third party that that

1370
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:48,470
kind of got this information to the

1371
00:52:52,870 --> 00:52:50,930
cultures around the world I wonder if it

1372
00:52:54,820 --> 00:52:52,880
wasn't some type of spiritual or

1373
00:52:57,370 --> 00:52:54,830
multi-dimensional communication from

1374
00:52:59,890 --> 00:52:57,380
being in a higher state of mind I

1375
00:53:02,109 --> 00:52:59,900
totally think that's possible I really

1376
00:53:05,710 --> 00:53:02,119
do I think you know anything is possible

1377
00:53:08,170 --> 00:53:05,720
and that's a very interesting idea and I

1378
00:53:10,210 --> 00:53:08,180
don't see why that can't be and Richard

1379
00:53:11,410 --> 00:53:10,220
I guess that kind of gets us towards the

1380
00:53:13,030 --> 00:53:11,420
end here I mean I think you're doing

1381
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:13,040
great work I don't know anyone else

1382
00:53:17,290 --> 00:53:14,930
drawing attention to these particular

1383
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:17,300
design elements around the globe you

1384
00:53:22,150 --> 00:53:20,330
find so many of them in so many places

1385
00:53:24,070 --> 00:53:22,160
and you're stitching back to

1386
00:53:25,510 --> 00:53:24,080
the mindset and philosophy around those

1387
00:53:27,190 --> 00:53:25,520
elements and I think it's great stuff

1388
00:53:29,380 --> 00:53:27,200
but I guess before I cut you loose

1389
00:53:31,270 --> 00:53:29,390
remind the people about your book and

1390
00:53:32,500 --> 00:53:31,280
websites they can check out a little bit

1391
00:53:34,750 --> 00:53:32,510
more what you got going on

1392
00:53:36,460 --> 00:53:34,760
thanks a lot Greg that was you know I

1393
00:53:37,930 --> 00:53:36,470
know that that came from your heart and

1394
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:37,940
I really want to tell you something from

1395
00:53:41,740 --> 00:53:39,410
my heart too that what you're doing is

1396
00:53:43,750 --> 00:53:41,750
just as important if not more important

1397
00:53:46,210 --> 00:53:43,760
you're you're trying to get people to

1398
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:46,220
wake up also you're trying to bring new

1399
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:49,010
bits of information from new authors and

1400
00:53:54,250 --> 00:53:50,450
writers and stuff like that and you're

1401
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:54,260
allowing people like me a platform to

1402
00:53:58,030 --> 00:53:55,970
speak and talk about what they think I

1403
00:53:59,740 --> 00:53:58,040
mean that's tremendously important it's

1404
00:54:01,900 --> 00:53:59,750
hard it must be hard what you're doing

1405
00:54:03,940 --> 00:54:01,910
I'm I'm sure you're not making $10,000 a

1406
00:54:05,230 --> 00:54:03,950
week and not that that's so important

1407
00:54:07,240 --> 00:54:05,240
but you know you know what I'm saying

1408
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:07,250
it's got to be a struggle and keep doing

1409
00:54:12,490 --> 00:54:09,650
it keep going strong the book is called

1410
00:54:15,550 --> 00:54:12,500
written in stone you can get it at my

1411
00:54:18,340 --> 00:54:15,560
website Richard kisara calm or deeper

1412
00:54:20,410 --> 00:54:18,350
truth calm I'm also writing a second

1413
00:54:23,050 --> 00:54:20,420
book it's called the missing link it's

1414
00:54:26,230 --> 00:54:23,060
about the god self icon found worldwide

1415
00:54:29,350 --> 00:54:26,240
which is a spin-off of an article in the

1416
00:54:30,850 --> 00:54:29,360
in the written in stone book and so yeah

1417
00:54:32,140 --> 00:54:30,860
that's pretty much it right now and I've

1418
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:32,150
got other things coming up on the

1419
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:34,370
horizon including some films and some

1420
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:36,290
other articles for my website and a

1421
00:54:41,140 --> 00:54:38,930
couple more books and so I'll keep you

1422
00:54:43,180 --> 00:54:41,150
posted and Greg I really thank you very

1423
00:54:44,500 --> 00:54:43,190
much for for having me on and I really

1424
00:54:46,090 --> 00:54:44,510
mean that I had a great conversation

1425
00:54:48,430 --> 00:54:46,100
with you I think you're a wonderful guy

1426
00:54:50,530 --> 00:54:48,440
oh thanks man I do appreciate the kind

1427
00:54:52,750 --> 00:54:50,540
words and I agree I had a great time too

1428
00:54:54,130 --> 00:54:52,760
you don't keep doing what you do take

1429
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:54,140
care of yourself out there and maybe

1430
00:54:59,470 --> 00:54:56,810
I'll see you in Spain sometime alright

1431
00:55:02,800 --> 00:54:59,480
Craig just any invitation okay oh wow

1432
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:02,810
thanks all right take care all right

1433
00:55:07,870 --> 00:55:05,450
take care Greg there we go people

1434
00:55:09,430 --> 00:55:07,880
brushing the dust off several aspects of

1435
00:55:11,410 --> 00:55:09,440
our buried history and I couldn't help

1436
00:55:13,930 --> 00:55:11,420
but note the similarities between the

1437
00:55:17,170 --> 00:55:13,940
triptych or the Tri arch and the tritone

1438
00:55:19,540 --> 00:55:17,180
I think these are two sides to a related

1439
00:55:21,100 --> 00:55:19,550
coin but I guess I've been so into the

1440
00:55:23,650 --> 00:55:21,110
ancient wisdom lately because of this

1441
00:55:25,750 --> 00:55:23,660
our mania to her but also richard

1442
00:55:28,420 --> 00:55:25,760
merrick thought that show is great and

1443
00:55:30,310 --> 00:55:28,430
by the way please share the show if you

1444
00:55:31,780 --> 00:55:30,320
can while I'm out of town and I can't do

1445
00:55:33,220 --> 00:55:31,790
it myself you know I really don't ask

1446
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:33,230
for that very much because usually I

1447
00:55:35,950 --> 00:55:35,330
just posted a few places and let the

1448
00:55:37,990 --> 00:55:35,960
chips fall

1449
00:55:39,790 --> 00:55:38,000
they may but it would be helpful while

1450
00:55:42,070 --> 00:55:39,800
I'm gone to kind of spread the word if

1451
00:55:43,690 --> 00:55:42,080
you'd be so kind I'm really starting to

1452
00:55:46,060 --> 00:55:43,700
settle in on my thoughts about the past

1453
00:55:47,890 --> 00:55:46,070
and how these pieces fit over the last

1454
00:55:50,530 --> 00:55:47,900
couple of shows I hope you are too and

1455
00:55:52,510 --> 00:55:50,540
today Richards work is a big component

1456
00:55:54,460 --> 00:55:52,520
of those thoughts for me I really loved

1457
00:55:55,900 --> 00:55:54,470
the first hour and in the Plus show we

1458
00:55:58,150 --> 00:55:55,910
talked about the current state of things

1459
00:56:00,190 --> 00:55:58,160
the soul-crushing nine-to-five the lack

1460
00:56:02,079 --> 00:56:00,200
of internal reflection and journeying

1461
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:02,089
and how it screwed so many of us up

1462
00:56:07,329 --> 00:56:04,690
today also how in Richards words

1463
00:56:09,670 --> 00:56:07,339
Hollywood sets the tone for this life

1464
00:56:11,500 --> 00:56:09,680
and the role of professional sports is

1465
00:56:14,170 --> 00:56:11,510
to eat the clock I think that's such a

1466
00:56:16,210 --> 00:56:14,180
good way of putting it take the people

1467
00:56:18,460 --> 00:56:16,220
away from enlightenment and then it's a

1468
00:56:20,589 --> 00:56:18,470
race to see if they can rediscover it

1469
00:56:23,170 --> 00:56:20,599
before they die but who has time for

1470
00:56:26,650 --> 00:56:23,180
psycho notic introspection when the

1471
00:56:28,660 --> 00:56:26,660
games on I get it we talked about the

1472
00:56:30,550 --> 00:56:28,670
struggle to trust yourself and live the

1473
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:30,560
dream the traps that have been set for

1474
00:56:34,329 --> 00:56:32,330
us that we can get caught up in the

1475
00:56:36,609 --> 00:56:34,339
tentacles of the conspiracy squid that

1476
00:56:38,710 --> 00:56:36,619
bother Richard most and positive

1477
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:38,720
solutions to work towards wriggling free

1478
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:39,770
from their clutches

1479
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:42,530
Richard's journey expatriated to Spain

1480
00:56:47,980 --> 00:56:45,050
all kinds of good stuff so there will be

1481
00:56:50,890 --> 00:56:47,990
a bit of delay between this and the next

1482
00:56:53,500 --> 00:56:50,900
episode I am still on the tour who knows

1483
00:56:54,910 --> 00:56:53,510
how I'll return in what state but

1484
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:54,920
hopefully I'll be ready to get back to

1485
00:56:58,839 --> 00:56:56,570
it and turn out some more good shows

1486
00:57:00,790 --> 00:56:58,849
three left in the month of August I have

1487
00:57:03,130 --> 00:57:00,800
them booked when I get back as long as

1488
00:57:05,140 --> 00:57:03,140
there's no rescheduling or anything we

1489
00:57:07,089 --> 00:57:05,150
should be good so take a lesson from

1490
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:07,099
scar from The Lion King and be prepared

1491
00:57:10,660 --> 00:57:09,050
I'm getting out of here for now I've

1492
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:10,670
done my part so it's your move

1493
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:12,410
destroyers of ancient knowledge and

1494
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:15,050
builders of the nine-to-five paradigm

1495
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:27,340
what it's like to be a Rainmaker wonder

1496
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:41,930
what it's like tags on everyone

1497
00:57:53,210 --> 00:58:02,110
what it's like to be a superhero

1498
00:58:15,410 --> 00:58:11,750
where I go fly around downtown from some

1499
00:58:17,829 --> 00:58:15,420
other planet I get this funky highly

1500
00:58:33,210 --> 00:58:17,839
ellos son

1501
00:58:33,220 --> 00:58:40,220
if I was sorry

1502
00:58:55,839 --> 00:58:42,700
when we started this

1503
00:58:55,849 --> 00:59:19,599
I do

1504
00:59:42,099 --> 00:59:22,109
boy don't make me

1505
00:59:42,109 --> 00:59:49,410
when were stories

1506
00:59:49,420 --> 00:59:55,859
please don't change please don't

1507
01:00:14,340 --> 00:59:58,620
that seems to work it all envy you

1508
01:00:14,350 --> 01:00:18,260
about

1509
01:00:18,270 --> 01:00:22,870
oh boy